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Poster: Jungle Jane Date: Oct 5, 2009 8:34am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: more copyrighted stuff

Yet another uploader who seems to have nothing but copyrighted stuff.
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=streamfreak%20AND%20collection%3Aopensource_movies


I'm not even trying to find this stuff. Just browsing through the recent additions to open source and this stuff just jumps out at me and I'm not even counting the wrestling stuff.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Oct 5, 2009 7:13pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: more copyrighted stuff

Are these people stupid or just crazy? Most of what I saw were brand new movies, some of which I don't believe are even out on DVD yet! No way do these belong here and anyone with half a brain knows it! This is outright illegal and I'm pretty sure that the uploaders are aware of it. This will get the site shut down for sure if staff doesn't take action pronto.

This post was modified by guyzilla on 2009-10-06 02:13:03

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Poster: Jungle Jane Date: Oct 5, 2009 10:48pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: more copyrighted stuff

I sent an Email to the "info at archive dot org" address this morning pointing all this out and that the simple solution would be to appoint a moderator for moving images.

Somehow I have little faith it will do any good but I've made my attempt to warn them.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Oct 6, 2009 12:15am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: more copyrighted stuff

Let us know if you get any response. I was going to do the same thing when I got a chance and I still might. What was shown is probably only the tip of the iceberg. I saw a lot of this sort of stuff going on at DivX.com's Stage6, and it got shut down a year or two ago. There was a lot of copyright material up for grabs at that site, some being recent movies (at the time) with their titles changed, but the disguise was weak. I'm sure that's what caused the shutdown. I'd hate to see the same thing happen here.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Oct 6, 2009 2:39am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: more copyrighted stuff

I sent an e-mail with a link to this post. I hope they read it and deal with this.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Oct 7, 2009 3:00am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Still more copyrighted stuff

I've checked the "this just in" box in Open Source a couple of times in the last hour and I keep finding even more copyrighted material. "90210"? "Texas Chainsaw Massacre"? Come on! No way is this stuff PD.

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Poster: cosmicolada Date: Oct 7, 2009 7:17am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

A lot of people have no respect for copyrights, that much is clear, and when it is brought to their attention, they either act dumb or get angry. Many people feel entitled to getting something for nothing, and proceed accordingly.

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Poster: Jungle Jane Date: Oct 7, 2009 8:21am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

I still haven't received a response from IA but I really don't expect to.

I'll give them some more time before I start drawing conclusions.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Oct 7, 2009 2:22pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

I've posted alerts in the Feature Films and Open Source forums, if for no other purpose than to raise awareness.

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Poster: cosmicolada Date: Oct 7, 2009 3:16pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

Methinks everyone at the Archive is asleep or gone...they just forgot to turn out the lights and pull the plug.

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Poster: cathyftr Date: Oct 7, 2009 4:49pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

I noticed this person had uploaded an episode of the Showtime TV series "Dexter", being Viacom I am surprised they haven't already contacted this site but if the people who run this site have "vanished".well....

The subject of uploading copyright material...I am surprised the big guys ( Viacom, Dick Clark, Disney, NBC etc...) doesn't follow the footsteps of Baltimore's WBFF-TV when it comes to uploaded copyright material. What WBFF does when their stuff pops up on You Tube, not only do they contact You Tube BUT they also contact the person who did the actual uploading of the clip with a warning telling them the next time..the fines will come out of THEIR pocketbook. Now whehter or not WBFF will actually sue, i don't know but the scare alone will make many people to think twice.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDetective John Carter of Mars Date: Oct 7, 2009 5:26pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

@Viacom

it maybe up to them since "The Internet Archive follows the Oakland Archive Policy for Managing Removal Requests And Preserving Archival Integrity. "

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffLum Edwards Date: Oct 8, 2009 6:46pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

Hiya Sir John, Isnt that policy aimed more at websites/pages/content? Shouldn't IA also follow their own TOS policy as well?

"Copyright Policy
10 March 2001

The Internet Archive respects the intellectual property rights and other proprietary rights of others. The Internet Archive may, in appropriate circumstances and at its discretion, remove certain content or disable access to content that appears to infringe the copyright or other intellectual property rights of others."

OR its FAQ

"How can I add my music, movies, or text?

You may contribute content to the Internet Archive if it's in the public domain or if you own the rights to it."



What you seem to be saying is that as long as Viacom hasnt noticed this yet is ok to be here? Some of these 2009 Movies have garnered 2000+ downloads in the past ten days. I do not understand the thought process that allows this blatant piracy to run unchecked on this site now. I am certain neither streamfreak.org or dardarkom.com owns any rights to the movies/tv episodes they are uploading here.

Mike D.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDetective John Carter of Mars Date: Oct 9, 2009 7:39am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

@appropriate circumstances

= DMCA req now?

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Poster: Meatpies Date: Oct 9, 2009 1:02pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

What?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDetective John Carter of Mars Date: Oct 9, 2009 7:19pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

http://www2.sims.berkeley.edu/research/conferences/aps/removal-policy.html

"Third party removal requests based on the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA)."

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Poster: cathyftr Date: Oct 9, 2009 9:06pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff

I read the link.

As far as one claiming copyright and getting something removed..one thing this a lot of people either overlook or simply don't know is that in some cases "gentlemen's agreement" applies. Not sure if its the case with the big guys ( example Disney getting Warner Brothers stuff taken off ) but in some local TV markets it is the case.

Some months back I was considering about uploading a film on this site of KFEL-TV ( KWGN ) Denver's channel 2 first broadcast. After checking out some other sites, I discovered that some years back this "gentlemens agreement" was in effect in the Denver TV market. In other words had I uploaded that clip not only could KWGN demand the clip be taken down but so could the other TV stations in Denver, even those who have nothing to do with KWGN ( the former KFEL )..and living in Virginia I have better things to do with my time than calling up every TV station in Denver and asking for permission to upload a 10 minute clip. It wouldn't have been worth it.

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Poster: BoloResartus Date: Oct 7, 2009 6:22pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Still more copyrighted stuff


The Archive is also on Symantec's list of unsafe sites
because there are a couple of nasty programs attached to
some items.

When the admin doesn't pay attention to what's going on
it really can get nasty in a hurry.

I wonder if someone at EFF knows how to get hold of
Brewster to give him a heads up on this stuff.